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    For being "over-intelligent, it does not show in your spelling, word use, and grammar.
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    I m not American or English. Yes I m really over intelligent. There is nothing unusual about it.
    If i ask you to write posts on internet in German language or French language, you will make more
    spelling and grammar mistakes as I do.
    No seriously VAL, planet exist since millions of years, 50 years from now planet will still exist VAL.
    No panic VAL. Jog in your neighborhood, go to dance. Don’t freighted people with your end of the world
    stories.
    Ok there is environmental issues The three main issues are : The stupid humans don't want to stop to
    pump crude oil.
    Humans must made oil out of crops : biofuels. At a large scale. Like Brazilians do right now. Like
    Germans did WW2. The technology is simple, It exists for a long time.

    Second main issue. Cars. Cars burn to much oil. Cars are too heavy weight one tone. The entire
    population must drive two wheels vehicles now. Gasoline scooters with a roof that protects against the
    rain, or others two wheels or others little 100 kilos light vehicles.
    Scooters, or little 100 kilos light vehicles burn 5 times less gasoline as a car!!!!!!! That's the solution to
    our cars issues!!!!!.

    Other main issue : Overpopulation. There is overpopulation In two places only ! INDIA and CHINA.
    This two countries must apply for real a one family one children policy. Others country must help them
    to monitor it. Others countries must help them to decrease their population. Like friendly, nicely.
    Discuss, find solution, help this two countries to build together an efficient administration that monitor
    and punish badly those who make more than one children ( jail sentence or other hard and efficient
    punishment ). Fine this people don’t work. It’s not a good solution. They borrow money somewhere and
    they continue to raise their family without worrying. Money punishment it’s not enough. Doesn’t work
    really.
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    Overpopulation beyond long term sustainable is in the USA and south into South America in the western hemisphere. It is in Asia south of Russia, Europe west of Ukraine, all of Africa, and even Australia is over-full. The Earth will go on after the slow biosphere recovery. Here is a great essay by a member and friend, perhaps in better words than I can ever write;
    A LETTER TO EVERYONE

    From the day we're born, all of us are inspired by our natural instinct to grow
    our physical abilities and knowledge, our family relationships, our talents,
    our friends, and our growing skills to work and earn a good living so we can
    grow our bank accounts and enjoy "the good life", and then advance our good
    reputation as successful men and women in a prosperous economy for a nation
    of growing influence around the World ---- which becomes a problem if other
    people in other nations push forward with their own agenda = World Wars One
    and Two, and the recently ended "Cold War" with the former Soviet Union.
    But even if all the people of the World learn to live together peacefully for
    growing trade and expanding global cooperation, it can't go on forever.

    Why? Because the Earth, the planet we live on, is not growing. In fact,
    with each volcano and earthquake, it is slowly cooling and shrinking, as it has
    from its beginning with the Sun as an enormous cloud of hot, swirling gases
    slowly cooling and forming the planets Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars
    Earth, Venus and Mercury.

    Yet, it's hard to find scientists, economists or anyone to admit that, because
    almost everyone assumes we must go right on growing our families and expanding
    our careers and business investments forever; and millions see their own children
    as a financial investment to make the family rich, so the more the better!

    Why not?! It's certainly good for business to promote a growing population of
    ambitious consumers who always buy more products every year. A favorite slogan
    is "A growing economy is a healthy economy." If only we could somehow make
    our planet grow right along with us, there would always be more of everything
    for everyone, right?

    So the astronomers and astro-physicists are busy searching the night sky for other
    life-supporting planets orbiting other stars like our Sun, if only we could travel
    millions of miles into outer space. Problem solved! We'll send high tech robots that
    don't need food, water, air or sunlight, produce no sewage or garbage and require
    only a little oil, recharge and a replacement part once in awhile. Later we'll invent
    a safe method of suspended animation, like Sigourney Weaver had in those three
    sci-fi "Alien" films, so living astronauts can sleep through the exciting adventure
    of space travel (!)

    But there is another problem.

    While scientists and businessmen are busy planning to conquer the universe,
    our human population keeps on growing, now 7 billion and counting. So, we face
    a very difficult question: How many people can the Earth support? We must find
    an answer now because, not only is it slowly shrinking, as a living system, it is
    struggling to neutralize the ever-growing mass of our trash, junk and sewage with
    more violent storms and floods, huge tornados, droughts and raging wildfires, all
    happening now around the World because every day growing tons of garbage and
    sludge are dumped in the ocean, lakes and rivers, while big cities like Los Angeles
    are surrounding themselves with growing mountains of "landfill", while growing
    thousands of coal-fired power plants and growing thousands of jet planes are
    spewing out growing tons of toxic smoke and exhaust fumes, and occasionally an
    oil well is operated below safety standards and suddenly spills tons of crude oil
    onto land and into the sea. But how much can the Earth absorb?

    Each one of us is born with an "auto-immune system", so if germs make you sick
    with the "common cold", without you having to think about it, your body will
    automatically raise your temperature, make you sneeze and cough up phlegm, blow
    out nasal fluid, need more water and fruit juice and more sleep, during which time
    the white cells in your blood stream will surround and kill the virus invaders.
    But if you've been drinking coffee, alcoholic beverages, smoking cigarettes and
    staying up late, you immune system could be so weak your cold may turn into a
    fatal case of pneumonia.

    Likewise with planet Earth. It has its own auto-immune system that constantly
    absorbs and recycles everything in rainstorms and flooding rivers, hurricanes and
    tornados, hot summer and cold winter seasons. Everything is always moving and
    changing, because the Earth is a "biosphere", not cold and dead like Mars, or
    broiling hot like Venus, but a living, breathing weather system of four seasons
    we all depend on to grow and store our food and water and to breathe fresh air
    from the photosynthesis of natural forests and the phytoplankton in the ocean
    that together convert the carbon dioxide we exhale into the oxygen we must inhale
    to stay alive. If that systen collapses from the growing mass of our pollution,
    every living thing on Earth will die.

    Therefore, our lifetime job should be to protect that biosphere so our children
    will have a safe and healthy place to live and grow. We should give that to them
    as their birthright with food, clothing, shelter, love, friendship and education,
    which can only exist on a life-supporting planet. To do this successfully, two
    things must be accomplished as soon as possible:

    1. Safely recycle 100% of all garbage and waste materials, or close down their
    source. For example, there is no such thing as "clean coal technology" because
    even if all the smoke from coal-fired power plants could somehow be "scrubbed",
    there would soon be a gigantic tonnage of carbon waste and no safe place for it.
    Some say bury it, but it would eventually mix with ever-seeping ground water and
    leach into streams and lakes. But the coal seams in their original underground
    locations were harming no one, because over eons of time by slow geologic
    permutations, the Earth isolates its many toxic elements, including coal, oil and
    uranium, so life can evolve. The only reason we need coal, oil and uranium
    is to supply our massively growing population.

    2. Peacefully establish family planning clinics in every neighborhood in every
    village, town and city where each woman is given the legally protected right to
    freely decide if and when to birth her children. Very few women want 6, 7, 8 kids.
    More want none at all, but the vast majority want no more than 1, 2 or 3. Abortion
    is rarely necessary because thousands of childless couples are waiting to adopt.

    In this way, the human race can live in a natural balance with a healthy biosphere
    that provides everything we need because, with less people, work is more valuable
    with plenty of resources for everyone, and thus no possibility of obsessively
    growing super corporations or massive federal bureacracies, no overcrowded cities
    infested with crime and crooked politics, no thousands of air-polluting coal-fired
    power plants, no thousands of oil wells spilling from unsafe rigs and platforms.
    Modern technology has already developed cleaner sources of electricity, like solar,
    wind, geo-thermal, tidal and battery-powered vehicles, which are perfect for a
    smaller and more sensitive human population working as a friendly network of
    locally sovereign towns and villages who trade freely for everyone's mutual benefit.

    We have the scientific ability to create a virtual paradise on Earth for everyone
    and everyone's children for a million years and beyond, or we can let our predatory
    instincts grow and drive us blindly and stupidly into ecocide and self-extinction.

    So, how many people can learn about this dilemma now, today, tomorrow, next
    week, next month and throughout this year and next? Is there still enough time
    to change, and will enough people think about it and make a rational choice?
    If you pass this letter on to some one you know, that might help.


    Clinging to a thread of hope,
    John Talbot Ross
    April/May/June, 2011

    from:
    "If Saving the Earth" via Google.com

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